by that? >> they didn't really ban it. they just took it out of brown hands. they banned mexicans, basically. they got rid of mexican-american studies. they put all of the books that they took away from students. they boxed them and put them away. the catch-22 seems to be that anybody who's not from that ethnic studies world could teach it. but that there would be disciplinary action, as i understand it, if anyone complains about those being taught. so in essence, they've been what i call a soft banning. they're out of the picture. and -- >> but just look at the books. i brought a list of the titles. chicano, the history of the mexican civil rights movement, boxed. critical theory by delgado and stepanic, boxed. 500 year history of pictures, boxed. occupied america, boxed. rethinking columbus, the next 500 years, boxed. the oppressed, boxed. and then howard zenness, the people's history of the united states? >> he's a lefty. >> sandros cisneros, zapata's disciple, feminism is for everybody, jonathan kozel's savage inequalities, luis rodriguez is always running, by the lake of slee